If you're planning a career in advertising or the creative world, take 10 minutes and listen to this. He hits the importance of failure, the knowledge of social media and its strengths, inventing in a media landscape that is constantly shifting. As a permalancer, he's his own brand: great takeaways here from a seasoned, smart creative leader.
Thanks, Isaac Viel, for shooting and editing. Thanks, Julie Nelson, for interview. Thanks, production team of Josh Quinn, Jessica Stuhr and Gabe Toth-Fejel for all the work. What a team!
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